| Vall | Cpuroast., managed to upgrade all my SAS controllers here to 20.00.07.00 |
| Vall | thanks again for the help |
| DrKK` | sup |
| peerce | hmm, i just upgraded the firmware on my 9211 on my freebsd box, using the 9210 stuff i found on broadcom, and its 20.0.6.00, didn't I usee you say its 20.0.07.00 now?? |
| peerce | Num Ctlr FW Ver NVDATA x86-BIOS PCI Addr |
| peerce | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| peerce | 0 SAS2008(B2) 20.00.06.00 14.01.00.08 07.39.02.00 00:06:00:00 |
| Cpuroast | peerce: yes 20.0.07.00 is latest |
| Cpuroast | peerce: why didn't you use the 9211 stuff on broadcom.com |
| Cpuroast | ? |
| peerce | hmm, ddidn't show up on the menu |
| Cpuroast | https://www.broadcom.com/support/download-search |
| peerce | oh wait, I used the .bin's from an older download, ahahahaha |
| Cpuroast | Legacy Products, Legacy Host Bust Adapters |
| Cpuroast | LSI 9211-8i Host Bus Adapter |
| Cpuroast | Asset Type, Firmware |
| Cpuroast | it's there |
| r0b- | does a FreeNAS CPU have to be super powerful? |
| Cpuroast | no |
| Cpuroast | depends on what you want to do with it |
| r0b- | for a typical home use what would you suggest? |
| Cpuroast | pure storage, not really |
| peerce | r0b-; not unless you got overboard with crap like PLEX |
| r0b- | what would you suggest for PLEX? lol |
| Cpuroast | r0b-: i3 |
| peerce | I'm using an older HP Microserver N40L, works just fine for me at home. only downside is 4 drive bays. |
| Cpuroast | depends on how many streams |
| peerce | for plex? the garbage can, hated it. |
| siix | ACTION doesn't like plex either |
| sunrunner20 | https://www.reddit.com/r/WoT/comments/7vijkq/spoilers_amol_brandons_big_secret/ |
| sunrunner20 | for any WoT fans |
| peerce | my wife, the main tv viewer, prefers Kodi on the settop box, and kodi just just fine with smb |
| Cpuroast | r0b-: a kaby lake pentium or i3 would do nicely |
| sunrunner20 | don't read it if you're still reading the series |
| siix | i'm a minidlna user. have been for a long time |
| peerce | never ever liked DLNSA |
| peerce | DLNA |
| Cpuroast | r0b-: if you need more power, you need to get a Xeon E3 |
| siix | plex just never worked for me. too slow. too bulky. too much commercial garbage. too many bugs |
| Cpuroast | r0b-: as i5 and i7 don't handle ECC RAM |
| r0b- | ah |
| peerce | storage servers should be pure storage. |
| Cpuroast | Celeron, Pentium, i3, or Xeon E3 |
| ek | Hrm. Plex works just fine for me. |
| Selavi | plex has been great for me and my fam |
| Cpuroast | r0b-: compare costs between all 4 |
| Cpuroast | and pick best bang for buck |
| ek | Of course, with the latest _NEED_ for a Plex.TV account, it sorta bothers me. |
| siix | wish i could get /anything/ to work on that PoS samsung smart tv she bought a couple years ago |
| siix | even plex |
| r0b- | if I "start" a FreeNAS I am going to use my i3 4360 with 32GB ram. |
| r0b- | its just not ECC |
| ek | siix: Ah. I'm using Roku. |
| Cpuroast | r0b-: that's ok for now |
| Cpuroast | but ideally you'd want to move to an ECC capable platform |
| ek | r0b-: I'd recommend ECC if you can. |
| siix | i used to have a couple, ek. i like them. i prefer older smart tvs with built-in dlna stuff that works |
| ek | ... if the mobo supports it. |
| ek | siix: Sure. Nothing wrong with that. |
| Cpuroast | r0b-: you can even re-use the CPU as it handles ECC, you'd just need an ECC capable board and ECC RAM |
| peerce | my settop box now is a nvidia shield, works way better than any of the older ones I tried. |
| siix | i mean, i could get another roku for her tv but damn...she paid soooo much for that thing it seems a shame to do that |
| sunrunner20 | never had a TV that its DLNA support wasn't utter shit |
| siix | i have 3 older samsung smart tvs that work great |
| sunrunner20 | both TVs I have access too |
| siix | older -> 5-7 years |
| sunrunner20 | require low complexity H264 with AAC audio |
| sunrunner20 | flat won't work with ANYTHING else |
| ek | I have a Samsung with DLNA that "works". Nowhere near as well as the Roku, though. |
| siix | can rokus do h265? |
| peerce | so you have to log onto a phone or pc, and play the video there, casting it to the dlna ? |
| sunrunner20 | or maybe its mpeg4 |
| sunrunner20 | I forget |
| Cpuroast | r0b-: for ECC on your haswell i3, you need a C22X chipset |
| Cpuroast | r0b-: so C222, C224 or C226 |
| Cpuroast | r0b-: https://ark.intel.com/products/77493/Intel-Core-i3-4360-Processor-4M-Cache-3_70-GHz |
| Cpuroast | that i3 should handle plex pretty nicely |
| Cpuroast | it's a high-clock model with the full 4MB of cache |
| wedgie | plex is only cpu hungry when transcoding... which should be fairly rare if you're watching it on a tv, right? |
| Cpuroast | usually yeah |
| Cpuroast | depends on the capabilities of the playback device |
| sunrunner20 | man |
| sunrunner20 | my plex pegs my 4ghz quad xeon |
| peerce | SMB to my Kodi box doesn't even make my N40L breath hard. |
| peerce | :-p |
| Cpuroast | sunrunner20: depends on your playback devices |
| peerce | [and an n40l is a pretty damn slow CPU] |
| sunrunner20 | granted its trying to transcode 1080p to h264 in realtime |
| Cpuroast | lots of tablets, lots of transcoding, high CPU usage |
| sunrunner20 | Cpuroast, it always transcodes TV |
| sunrunner20 | man |
| sunrunner20 | my OLD iphone could do h265 in software in realtime |
| sunrunner20 | it had a codec chip but VLC couldn't access it |
| sunrunner20 | *has |
| sunrunner20 | I think that changed on one of the point releases of iOS10 |
| sunrunner20 | the plan was to watch GoT while at the gym |
| sunrunner20 | then I realized I'd probably get arrested because of all the nudity in GoT |
| m0nkey_ | sunrunner20: I'm being vectored in for approach |
| sunrunner20 | ha |
| ^Gecko^ | m0nkey_ watch out for those bitmaps |
| ozymandias_ | guy in one of my irc channels wanted to know where to find GoT 'with all the porn removed',,,, |
| ^Gecko^ | LOL |
| sunrunner20 | LOLOLOL |
| m0nkey_ | That is one show I must start watching. |
| ozymandias_ | when we tried to point out its not really porn, he called us all perverted adicts |
| m0nkey_ | I have it, never watched it |
| sunrunner20 | yes because naked people == porn |
| ^Gecko^ | you could just say 'porn? on network tv?" |
| sunrunner20 | what a prude |
| m0nkey_ | there is nudeness in GoT? |
| ozymandias_ | i'm ok with not wanting to watch nudity -- but then... just dont watcht he shows with it in there |
| ozymandias_ | thats what got me |
| sunrunner20 | tons m0nkey_ |
| ^Gecko^ | m0nkey_, their hands and faces aren't covered |
| m0nkey_ | I should watch this |
| ozymandias_ | the weird, i want to watch adult content... with the adult content removed |
| ^Gecko^ | sometimes even their arms |
| m0nkey_ | I want to watch adult content, with the adult content. |
| sunrunner20 | Its not the nudity that'd keep me from letting kids see it |
| ozymandias_ | in fact, add some extra |
| ozymandias_ | could we have picture in picture with more nudity maybe? |
| sunrunner20 | its all the grusome deaths and torcher |
| sunrunner20 | *waves sausage around* |
| ozymandias_ | sunrunner20, he legitimately wanted it for himself though |
| ^Gecko^ | m0nkey_ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5TRwoyggAE (vectoring) |
| ozymandias_ | we pointed out that GoT was not family friendly in any way, no matter how censored it was |
| sunrunner20 | richard dean anderson is the bomg |
| sunrunner20 | *bomb |
| sunrunner20 | him and Amanda Tapping are one of the few names I know |
| ozymandias_ | they are pretty awesome |
| sunrunner20 | and Michael whats his face |
| ozymandias_ | shanks |
| ^Gecko^ | knight |
| sunrunner20 | shanks |
| ^Gecko^ | no |
| ^Gecko^ | michael knight |
| ^Gecko^ | knight rider! |
| ^Gecko^ | KITT vs KARR |
| ozymandias_ | tapping, anderson and shanks are stargate |
| ^Gecko^ | oh |
| sunrunner20 | yup |
| ^Gecko^ | who was the dude that had his own personal shield that nearly starved him the first time he used it? |
| sunrunner20 | oh |
| sunrunner20 | give me a sec |
| sunrunner20 | rodney mckay real name David hewlett |
| sunrunner20 | and that was SG-A not SG-1 |
| sunrunner20 | I may have watched too much Stargate... |
| ^Gecko^ | all the same to me |
| ^Gecko^ | BUT YOU KNEW what I was talking about |
| ^Gecko^ | lol |
| ozymandias_ | he was in both |
| ozymandias_ | just that scene was atlantis |
| sunrunner20 | the shield episode was SG-A |
| ozymandias_ | yup |
| sunrunner20 | http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Hide_and_Seek |
| m0nkey_ | landed |
| m0nkey_ | a bit of a heavy landing, but not bad. |
| sunrunner20 | was an early episode too |
| m0nkey_ | don't think i've done much of flight with the beechcraft before. mostly joyrides. |
| m0nkey_ | But that was full on nav :) |
| ^Gecko^ | landed? are you on a sim, or |
| sunrunner20 | sim |
| sunrunner20 | following the flight plan of my neighbor |
| m0nkey_ | sim |
| ^Gecko^ | cool |
| m0nkey_ | heh, so ATC put me on runway 17 |
| m0nkey_ | looks like his flight did the same thing |
| sunrunner20 | lol |
| sunrunner20 | fake ATC m0nkey_ or are the wierdos who think being ATC is a way to relax at it again |
| m0nkey_ | lol |
| m0nkey_ | it's the ATC within the sim |
| m0nkey_ | I could have done VATSIM, but there wasn't anyone on. |
| ^Gecko^ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxq9yj2pVWk |
| sunrunner20 | that'd be like me deciding deploying new software to a electronic trading pool is relaxing |
| sunrunner20 | of if you cause a second of downtime that's millions of dollars lost |
| sunrunner20 | *oh |
| sunrunner20 | not that that'd matter today |
| sunrunner20 | BUUUURRRRNN |
| sunrunner20 | guess I'm the only one who found that funny. |
| acos | So you caused the outage? |
| ^Gecko^ | lol |
| acos | Thanks a lot bro.....lots money |
| acos | Lost** |
| sunrunner20 | only if you sold it lol |
| sunrunner20 | wonder how much TQQQ is down |
| acos | :D |
| sunrunner20 | will they even let me buy right now? |
| JayDugger | What sort of sim, sunrunner20? (And thanks for the correction, now everyone can just relax.) |
| sunrunner20 | idk which sim m0nkey_ used JayDugger |
| sunrunner20 | there's like 4 and I don't know the differences |
| m0nkey_ | X-Plane 11 |
| JayDugger | Right. Used to work on flight simulators, so I thought I'd ask. |
| m0nkey_ | I'm too cheap for P3D |
| sunrunner20 | ha |
| m0nkey_ | Plus X-Plane now has experimental VR support |
| sunrunner20 | youtube thinks i'm going to pay $5 to see geostorm |
| sunrunner20 | I just had to tell alexa to shut up |
| CheckYourSix | peerce: What extra information do I need to provide about AD to help diagnose why it's not working? |
| sunrunner20 | peerce, I don't expect you to remember. But you're totally right. Quality Parm is WAY better than the cheap stuff |
| peerce | CheckYourSix: open a suppor ticket at ix |
| CheckYourSix | peerce: Ok |
| {HD} | How do I fix this? freenas smartd[18965]: Unable to register device /dev/da12 (no Directive -d removable). Exiting. |
| {HD} | da12 is my boot thumb-drive |
| peerce | go into the smartd service settings, and uncheck that drive |
| {HD} | and in my smart tasks I don't even have da12 selected. |
| peerce | wait, its not in smartd services, its in volume status? wait, let me find it. |
| peerce | ah, storage -> view disks... |
| wedgie | do thumb drives usually support smart? |
| peerce | find da12, edit, disable smart. |
| peerce | wedgie; no, they don't, and there's NO reporting of internal issues |
| {HD} | peerce: Nice, I am rebooting now but I will do that when its back up. |
| peerce | wear or anything, they just start corrupting data when they wear out |
| {HD} | I feel like if the drive has 'enable smart' unchecked then it should not show up in the list of 'tasks - smart tests' |
| peerce | well, they are unrelated things, believe it or not. the smart test tasks are cron jobs that just fire off a smartctl -t |
| peerce | whereas smartd is a service that monitors drives and reports things, nothing specifically to do with smart tests. |
| {HD} | Oh, I guess Ill have to lookup smartd reporting information. I don't think that service has ever been on for me. |
| {HD} | So, if I leave smart test for the usb thumb-drive selected what will it do? just not do it? or fail? |
| CheckYourSix | peerce: Submitted. Just to make sure I'm not missing something obvious, I don't have to do anything special aside from give it the domain, user, and password, right? |
| peerce | i haven't setup AD in years |
| peerce | why are you asking me? |
| CheckYourSix | You're the only one who answered me about the log and said it looks normal. |
| {HD} | SOB!!! What is “CCB request completed with an error“ |
| {HD} | Its froking out my whole sys! |
| peerce | is that the /only/ message, completely out of context ? |
| {HD} | Yes |
| sunrunner20 | wow |
| sunrunner20 | John Williams is allegedly worth 100mil |
| peerce | google suggests that can be triggered by bad usb ticks |
| peerce | sticks |
| peerce | the hollywood composer? wy does that surprise you? |
| {HD} | I think I have a failing usb header... |
| sunrunner20 | not sure |
| sunrunner20 | but he deserves every penny |
| peerce | i've always thought he was a bit of a schmaltzy hack, but whatever. |
| peerce | not a big fan of psuedo-classical |
| sunrunner20 | egh the soundtracks have been fantastic as far as I'm concerned |
| sunrunner20 | don't care what it sounds like |
| wedgie | I like John Williams |
| peerce | i'm listening to this jazz singer right now, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uWGniyknuk |
| sunrunner20 | bleeeh |
| sunrunner20 | got called in |
| {HD} | Omg got another ccb with a different drive different port! |
| {HD} | I think I might just go for Sata drives. |
| {HD} | Is there a memtest86+ for USB drives? |
| slwb | yes |
| slwb | https://www.raymond.cc/blog/how-to-check-and-test-usb-flash-drive/ |
| {HD} | Neat |
| {HD} | All win it looks like |
| {HD} | I get before the grub menu something about compression algorithms they look like errors however they flashed by so quickly. Any ideas? |
| slwb | lots of ideas, none of them relevant to grub and compression though |
| Aro2220 | Hi, would it be reasonable to buy something like a 9u server rack and then buy a used server blade like this Dell R710 and use that for the nas? |
| Aro2220 | https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-R710-8-Core-2-5-Server-32GB-RAM-PERC6i-DVD-iDRAC6-2x-146GB-15k |
| {HD} | slwb: :) |
| slwb | Aro2220, it will function |
| slwb | might be better options than that r710 floating around |
| peerce | Aro2220; those sorts of servers almost always have hardware raid cards (dell PERC, HP SmartArray), which don't support true passthrough modes at all. |
| _Bauer | peerce, JayDugger - I tried plugging the card in my new gaming PC - it doesnt fit any of the PCI sockets :( I thought PCI are always backwards compatible... I'll see if someone at work can try it maybe |
| slwb | but the hardwar raid inside might be problematic |
| peerce | and if this is for home use, an y sort of 2U rack server is NOISY |
| peerce | and even in a room by itself, you'll hear it at the other end of a quiet house |
| peerce | unless you live in a big city surrounded by noise |
| Aro2220 | peerce what is true passthrough mode? |
| peerce | basically, you want a straight HBA card and NOT a raid card. |
| peerce | host bus adapter. |
| peerce | that dell also probably draws 100-200 watts minimum just idling |
| Aro2220 | So xnay on the server rack and go for just a normal desktop build? |
| Aro2220 | I have about 1200 watts I can give it for free. |
| peerce | free power ? |
| Aro2220 | Sort of yes |
| peerce | who you stealing it from ? |
| Aro2220 | utilities are included where I am. Catch is I don't have much of it. |
| peerce | desktops almost never have ECC memory, and I personally feel that ECC is important on a file server. |
| Aro2220 | but I am building this so I can just put ecc in if that's the main issue |
| Aro2220 | I just thought with a server rack I could also build up my own networking...learn pfsense or something |
| Aro2220 | sorry been browsing r/homelab |
| Aro2220 | I have my desktop and I want a server. Two units. |
| peerce | hmm, and that 2U only has 6 drive bays... I have a 2U here that has 12 in front and 2 more in back |
| Aro2220 | well that is unlikely to be the specific model i choose |
| peerce | now if you ar esure you'll just be putting 6 drives in, then so be it. |
| Aro2220 | I just meant...what about building a server rack |
| Aro2220 | instead of a desktop |
| peerce | do you hve a sound proof place with great ventilation to put that server ? |
| Aro2220 | no |
| Aro2220 | ventilation isn't bad |
| peerce | then forget rack mount. |
| Aro2220 | sound proof no |
| peerce | unless its super nosiy where you are (trraffic etc) already |
| Aro2220 | so basically a lot louder than a PC with a beefy video card and all fans at 100%? |
| peerce | yes. smaller fans at 12000 rpm. |
| peerce | screamers |
| peerce | and lots and lots of them |
| Aro2220 | well then |
| ^Gecko^ | I wonder if I can spike beer with everclear |
| Aro2220 | *dreams shattered* |
| Aro2220 | thank you |
| peerce | typical 2U has like 14 fans in it or something |
| peerce | for home use, i'd get one of those home server desktop cases that hold 6-8 disks... and a supermicro board, X11 or something. |
| peerce | or what I hacve, an HP Microserver, but thats only 4 drives. |
| liriel | I am up to 14 drives jammed in my current desktop case - in hindsight I wish I had gone 2u or 4u |
| Aro2220 | 2u or 4u are server racks...the screamers right? |
| Aro2220 | but i don't think i will get 14 drives in the near future so |
| ^Gecko^ | 2U are the real screamers |
| peerce | 4U cases can be quieter than 1U or 2U |
| ^Gecko^ | smaller diameter = more rpms |
| liriel | well choice of fans is up to you but ... |
| peerce | since they can have larger fans. |
| Aro2220 | so what if I got like a 9u rack and put a couple 4u's in it? |
| peerce | but most rack servers are as high density performance wise as they can get, since rack space costs money. |
| ^Gecko^ | Cobalt Raq3 is a 1U with an annoyingly loud 40mm fan |
| Aro2220 | It's just...this picture shows easy loading hard drive bays in front. And pics of these server racks on r/homebrew have all these switches and hubs and stuff on them so it would be a really cool environment to learn networking with |
| peerce | you can just stack a couple 2U or 4U on a table, doesn't need to be racked |
| Aro2220 | well the rack looks cool |
| Aro2220 | lol |
| Aro2220 | and keeps my 3 year old from knocking it over |
| ^Gecko^ | ACTION should build a cardboard box drive array |
| peerce | looks cool. oh gawd, yeah, lets base our technology decisions on how cool it looks. |
| Aro2220 | for example: looks cool https://www.itrw.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/server_spaghetti_4.jpg |
| Aro2220 | i think things that are functional look cool |
| Aro2220 | 'looks cool' is a completely arbitrary term and you're right i shouldn't use it |
| ^Gecko^ | lol hey DrKK` |
| peerce | here ya go! https://photos.smugmug.com/By-Date/2016/2016-06-20/n-PWqTPB/i-GghwnPM/1/d3e326b5/X3/i-GghwnPM-X3.jpg |
| peerce | does that 'look cool' enough ? |
| _Bauer | peerce: Any recommendations on cheap but reliable PCI2 NIC, this time? |
| peerce | PCI2 ? |
| Cpuroast | ? |
| Cpuroast | PCIe? |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: Something Intel |
| _Bauer | Cpuroast: Yes, the board I use is quite old: https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P8H61M_LE/specifications/ so need something compatible. But PCI I already ordered, and I think its DOA but cant tell for sure since the card doesnt fit on my newer PC.. |
| Cpuroast | the realtek controller is busted? |
| Cpuroast | not that it's much of a loss |
| Cpuroast | realtek is junk |
| _Bauer | no, but when I transfer massive amount of data, it disconnects.. I was told here to get a reliable nic. Intel Pro 1000, but the one I got seems doa, some hardware errors |
| _Bauer | Cpuroast: those errors - https://hastebin.com/lelitagume.pas |
| Cpuroast | Intel Pro 1000 |
| Cpuroast | is definitely your best bet |
| peerce | there's lots of pro1000 variants |
| Cpuroast | yup |
| _Bauer | Any recommendations on reliable seller? and I prefer PCI2 this time so I can cross check on the new computer if needed |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: PCIe 2.0 or PCIe 3.0 |
| Cpuroast | both will work |
| Cpuroast | hell even PCIe 1.1 would too |
| _Bauer | nah 2.0.. any recommendation? |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: https://www.amazon.com/Intel-1000-Dual-Server-Adapter/dp/B000BMZHX2/ref=pd_sim_147_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B000BMZHX2&pd_rd_r=4AKFT616MYJTDQ28AT40&pd_rd_w=haF52&pd_rd_wg=oGpvO&psc=1&refRID=4AKFT616MYJTDQ28AT40 |
| Cpuroast | https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Gigabit-Network-Adapter-EXPI9301CTBLK/dp/B001CY0P7G/ref=pd_sim_147_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B001CY0P7G&pd_rd_r=BJ4W183T9VRPM24PHE6M&pd_rd_w=yOumh&pd_rd_wg=ciXpP&psc=1&refRID=BJ4W183T9VRPM24PHE6M |
| Cpuroast | would also work |
| peerce | that dual adapter needs a x4 slot |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: you are confusing PCI with PCIe |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: there's the old 32-bit parallel PCI and the newer serial PCIe standard |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: you can run PCIe 1.1, 2.0 and 3.0 in a 3.0 slot |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: the e in PCIe is express |
| Cpuroast | peerce: he can use his x16 slot |
| Cpuroast | peerce: if he's using onboard CPU graphics |
| _Bauer | yeah I do have all slots free |
| Cpuroast | but yeah the x1 would probably be all you need |
| _Bauer | but I am looking for cheapest option.. hard to believe such an ancient tech simplest card should set me back by about 30$ |
| Cpuroast | ancient tech? |
| Cpuroast | it's a dual-port server-grade gigabit adapter |
| Cpuroast | not exactly ancient |
| Aro2220 | peerce yes that does |
| peerce | Aro2220; and most of those were 10K and 15K rpm server drives |
| _Bauer | hmm, I'd be happy with single port, if I can find one cheaper... but I already burned with this cheap one from ebay which seems not to work |
| peerce | and virtually all thosee drive bays were full. |
| peerce | but its all gone now. |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9AX6UA3641&cm_re=Intel_pro_1000-_-9SIA9AX6UA3641-_-Product |
| Cpuroast | https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9AX6MV0178&cm_re=Intel_pro_1000-_-9SIA9AX6MV0178-_-Product |
| Cpuroast | ignore the 2nd one |
| Aro2220 | peerce is that your rack? |
| Cpuroast | that's fiber |
| peerce | Aro2220; was the rack at work, picture is from june 2016 right after I populated it (after moving from a half empty double-rack at another site) |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: the 12.99 one should do the trick |
| peerce | it was dismantled in december and is all gone now. |
| Aro2220 | aww...i hope they have something better |
| peerce | nah, our department was disbanded, that was our development stack |
| _Bauer | Thanks Cpuroast! I was actually looking for something like it here: https://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100166810%2050001157%20600016290&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=96 But cheapest one is 40$ CAD! outrageous |
| peerce | some of those servers got moved to another site and are being used by the dev group thats supporting a lot of what we did, but they will be just reusing the hardware, wiping my builds ands stuff |
| peerce | before I left, I migrated everything deemed important to them. |
| peerce | our source code control server was migrated to asia |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: why is it outrageous? |
| peerce | asia wanted me to clone the VM. I said no, you build YOUR OS config to these basic requirement specs, and lets move the hive and sql database |
| Cpuroast | what makes your think a good brand new nic has to be super cheap |
| peerce | because that way, its managed THEIR way instead of MY way. |
| Aro2220 | seems like you've got a good head on your shoulders |
| mrelcee | i'm in the process of winding down my freebsd server - moving important things to a bhyve vm.. with the intent of switching to freenas for the server OS.. i have the disk image files as zfs volumes on an SSD. how straightforward will it be to get that firing on freenas? |
| peerce | i've been doing systems shit for a long long time, and just retired from it. down to dabbling with a couple internet servers that I've had for quite awhile. |
| Aro2220 | what's the industry like to work in? |
| peerce | Aro2220; changing. always changing. |
| peerce | never stop learning until you die. |
| _Bauer | Cpuroast: well because, LAN is ancient tech, nothing new or unique there, plenty of cards on the market.. its not fiber or someothing. |
| Aro2220 | peerce that's my motto |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: except, everything besides Intel or Broadcom is complete junk |
| peerce | I sttarted in the 70s. punch cards and batch systems. |
| mrelcee | $30 for a gigether nic is outrageous? |
| peerce | then minicomputers, then cp/m microcomputers, then IBM PC |
| mrelcee | ACTION avoids showing bauer his lens inventory |
| Aro2220 | that must have been something to see |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: the cheap ones will be realtek junk |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: like the one on your boar |
| Cpuroast | board |
| mrelcee | 10gige i nea |
| Aro2220 | i was born in the 80s and just the stuff i saw from personal computers was pretty fun |
| _Bauer | mrelcee: compared to teh 13$ Cpuroast managed to find, obviously yes |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: it's also refurb |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: meaning not new |
| _Bauer | Cpuroast: but there are no moving parts... it should be performing like new, right? basically |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: the 40$ ones you linked are actually new |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: in theory |
| mrelcee | i'm going to be linking two boxes some time soon. couple 10ge would be fun. :) |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: it's also 13$ USD |
| Cpuroast | since it's on newegg.com |
| Cpuroast | which means 16.31 + shipping |
| Cpuroast | CAD |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: quality parts are more expensive then shit ones, of course :) |
| _Bauer | I see.. I guess I wont have much choice :( will have to get a good one - how is this? https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Original-Intel-EXPI9400PT-PRO-1000-SinglePort-PCI-E-82572GI-Server-adapter/312032025650?hash=item48a68edc32:g:h-AAAOSw4shX6WoT is this good? |
| _Bauer | Problem is adapting it to low profile bracket... the LAN socket position is not standard, the one I have here is in the middle |
| peerce | I've taken a long bracket, cut it off with a fine tooth hacksaw, folded the end over with my vice, and drilled/filed a slot for the screw :D |
| _Bauer | How do I even know its not a fake Intel? I dont see any chip that says Intel lol.. and printing Intel on the PCB is not a proof |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: pretty sure that can be adapted to low-profile |
| _Bauer | ohh, cool, sounds like I am in for a challenge then :) |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Low-Profile-Bracket-of-Intel-EXPI9400PT-EXPI9300PT-HP-NC110T/172316159272?hash=item281ed7ed28:g:-uwAAOSw44BYJsm1 |
| _Bauer | Did you do all of that bending while the bracket was still affixed to the card? |
| Cpuroast | fixed |
| Cpuroast | here's a low-profile bracket for it |
| Cpuroast | no hacking needed |
| Cpuroast | unscrew full-height bracket, screw-in low-profile bracket |
| Cpuroast | done |
| _Bauer | Nice find! lol.. So all of that begs the question: Why is it sold twice more expensive here? if its the same card genuine same quality? |
| Cpuroast | used |
| Cpuroast | :) |
| Cpuroast | ebay has tons of used shit |
| _Bauer | it says new on that page |
| peerce | geez, $25 for this card, thats *CHEAP* https://www.amazon.com/Intel-EXPI9301CT-Gigabit-Desktop-Adapter/dp/B001CXWWBE |
| peerce | brand new, thats the current SKU for desktop intel gigE cards. |
| Cpuroast | +9$ shipping & import |
| Cpuroast | :) |
| Cpuroast | depends on where you are shipping to |
| peerce | free shipping with prime. i order that in the next 20 hours, and I'll have it thursday. |
| _Bauer | hmm, they have warehouse sales price of 18.45$, last time in Jan 10th - sounds like I am on a hunt gonna setup price alert :) |
| peerce | or wednesday, even, hah, if I order in the next 18 mins. |
| peerce | there's a bulk SKU thats 20 units without boxes. |
| peerce | just bagged. |
| peerce | oem pack |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: that board isn't exactly great for FreeNAS, no ECC support, but it will do if don't store important data |
| peerce | i loved getting disks in the factory bulk packs. |
| peerce | 20 drives in a case. |
| peerce | all in foam cushions |
| mrelcee | mmm 20 drives |
| mrelcee | I need to add some drives to my pool |
| mrelcee | i've been floating around 2.6tb free, goes down every night from tv shows but ive been keeping it about at that point by deleting and doing a rigorous cleanout of stuff that i kept because I could |
| _Bauer | I'll get the one above the Prime, didnt see the prime price originally link pointed to another seller |
| _Bauer | But question: Why some variants have a passive heat sink, and asome dont? Will it survive sustained read/writes in gbit speeds? |
| macintoshme | My FreeNAS is primarily a media box (Plex and Torrents) and a small time SMB file server. Is a ZIL for me? I found a spare 60GB Intel 330 in my parts bin I was thinking about making a ZIL. |
| peerce | bauer; its been a long time since a gigE NIC needed a fan |
| peerce | macintoshme; probably not. |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: they don't need a fan |
| peerce | ZIL works for things like relational database servers, or as a iscsi target for a write intensive VM |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: but some variants of it, they put a heatsink on it, to help with dissipation |
| peerce | s/relational/transactional/ |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: heatsinks can't hurt |
| _Bauer | But why would they do that? heatsink costs money to add, if it works stable sustained without heatsink, why? maybe its not as reliable without heatsink? |
| macintoshme | peerce, would it have any benefit for SMB? My understanding is it turns async writes to sync writes by gathering them and dumping them at once. Sorry if I just spouted nonsense |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: would probably be an older chip |
| peerce | macintoshme; not for most use cases of smb, archival and media, and such. |
| sunrunner20 | in 1945, Barry Fitzgerald accidentally decapitated his Oscar for Best Supporting Actor while using it to practice his golf swing. The statute was particularly vulnerable because it was made of plaster and painted gold due to the shortage of metal during WWII. |
| sunrunner20 | lol |
| macintoshme | Thanks guys |
| sunrunner20 | they couldn't spare a few pounds of iron? |
| peerce | you'll be network bound long before |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: or, since it's a server grade card, they added a heatink to improve reliability |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: there's a diff between consumer-grade and server grade |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: adding a small heatink for a server-grade component to improve reliability in 24/7 operation |
| Cpuroast | isn't surprising |
| Cpuroast | consumer-grade components don't run 24/7, so they could afford to omit the heatink |
| Cpuroast | to save costs |
| Cpuroast | and sell cheaper |
| _Bauer | so without heatsink, its consumer grade variant then? I guess if its stable enough to move a few TBs while I create a raid, I can live with that.. this card is much cheaper |
| Cpuroast | yeah, Desktop Adapter |
| Cpuroast | is consumer-grade |
| Cpuroast | as in Desktop PC |
| _Bauer | All that deliberation proved useless :( that item is not shipped to Canada :( damn |
| Cpuroast | :) |
| DrKK` | ah yes, |
| DrKK` | it turns out, |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: https://www.amazon.com/Intel-1000-Dual-Server-Adapter/dp/B000BMXME8/ref=sr_1_9?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1517893568&sr=1-9&refinements=p_89%3AIntel%2Cp_36%3A1253503011 |
| DrKK` | if I cut off all egressing packets from the house, |
| DrKK` | then it will necessarily disconnect me from the irc. lol |
| Cpuroast | but that's an x4 slot |
| _Bauer | Irrelevant, but lol - their shippping costs to Canada is 45$ at least :) |
| Cpuroast | lol |
| _Bauer | So back to chinese sourcing... Will this be good enough? https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Original-Intel-EXPI9400PT-PRO-1000-SinglePort-PCI-E-82572GI-Server-adapter/312032025650?hash=item48a68edc32:g:h-AAAOSw4shX6WoT |
| peerce | you don't mind waiting 2-3 weeks? |
| Cpuroast | https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833516122CVF&ignorebbr=1 |
| Cpuroast | Based on the Intel 82574 chipset, it is compatible with Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, and VMware operating systems |
| _Bauer | Not really no. the built in card works for streaming something. It only failed when I was xferring hundreds of GBs to backup/free drive to create a raid. I can wait with that |
| Cpuroast | 23.99+shipping for the add-on one |
| Cpuroast | which uses an Intel chip |
| Cpuroast | or yeah, that ebay one |
| Cpuroast | with the 0.99$ low-profile bracket |
| mrelcee | i've honestly never put this much throught into an ethernet card. :) |
| _Bauer | How do you know that card is based on Intel chip? |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: which one |
| Cpuroast | the addon? |
| Cpuroast | it says |
| _Bauer | oh I see, I missed it |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: Intel sells their chips to other manufacturers |
| Cpuroast | for cards |
| Cpuroast | to put in on boards |
| Cpuroast | on motherboards |
| Cpuroast | etc |
| _Bauer | I see.. hmmm, will decide tomorrow :) leaning towards the ebay one, unless I manage to get money back for DOA card, then will fix my stinyness mistake and grap the real thing form Amazon and be done with it |
| peerce | yeah, they never really wanted to be a board company, their boards were just 'reference designs' |
| peerce | one thing I have always liked about Intel, they are engineering driven. |
| peerce | detailed documentation and specs on most everything |
| Cpuroast | broadcom nic support in FreeNAS is probably pretty good too |
| _Bauer | I only once had Intel based PC - when they tried to push RDRAM :) |
| Cpuroast | lol |
| mrelcee | ooo. rdram. that's rugh |
| mrelcee | rough |
| mrelcee | i managesd to avoid that shitshow |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: that motherboard is Intel, no? |
| _Bauer | After that bad experience, I consistently concluded that AMD is the smart choice, always. Intel also likes to intentionally uhm.. "engineer" new sockets every year, to force you to buy new :) |
| Cpuroast | not every year |
| _Bauer | Cpuroast: yes, it was given to me free by a friend, in exchange for an old laptop with dead screen he needed for compact htpc to the living room :) all I had to get was case |
| Cpuroast | usually 2 CPU gens per socket |
| Cpuroast | it's been like that for some time |
| mrelcee | i've been heavily pro intel for years, but I'm kinda interested in AMD threadripper |
| Cpuroast | AMD was good prior to bulldozer arch |
| Cpuroast | now they are good with Zen |
| _Bauer | Yeah, but why? If AMD can do 3-5 years with a socket, so can Intel, if they tried |
| peerce | intel is moving towards system-on-a-chip, I think. |
| peerce | certainly for the freenas market, things like the C3338 make sense. |
| Cpuroast | we'll see how long AMD lasts with AM4 |
| Cpuroast | I don't foresee it lasting more than 2 gens of Ryzens |
| Cpuroast | _Bauer: you have to change sockets when you change RAM type |
| Cpuroast | that's obvious |
| Cpuroast | or when you increase the number of memory channels |
| peerce | long long ago, far far away (ok, late 1980s), I did consulting work for both Intel and AMD on seperate occasionss. Intel was very regimented, and specification and design driven. AMD were a bunch of cowboys by comparision. |
| _Bauer | They lasted long with AM2+, I had started with Athlon X2, after few years upgrading to Phenom 940 BE with some OC.. it worked very well. If I were on Intel, I'd spend much, much more on whole new system |
| Cpuroast | there's pros and cons to try to keep the same socket |
| Cpuroast | for too long |
| peerce | I don't think I've hardly ever replaced the CPU on a motherboard. |
| peerce | I've replaced motherboard+cpu in bunches of chassis several times over. |
| peerce | also replaced chassis, with the same guts, hah. |
| _Bauer | ok I gotta go.. its getting late :) interesting discussion, another day :) |
| Cpuroast | yeah, usually mobo+CPU+RAM |
| Cpuroast | the whole AMD FX was pretty much junk |
| peerce | i've upgraded ram a few times, not as many as you might think, considering how many systtems I've built since the PC |
| Cpuroast | compared to Intel's offerings |
| peerce | We had a very good pair of AMD based servers, each was a quad opteron 850 in a 4U |
| Cpuroast | Ryzen on the other hand is looking very solid |
| peerce | those things were database workhorses for years. they had a fiberchannel connected storage array that had scsi disks. |
| peerce | they ran two different versions of Oracle |
| peerce | opteron 850 was new in may 2004. so this was probably 2005. we never got /bleeding/ edge. |
| touson | I installed freenas on an old PC that I cobbled together last so I could learn about the platform |
| touson | I am now looking at implementing a far better set up with hot swappable drives running some kind of RAID |
| touson | Anyone got any advice on NAS enclosure, drives to use, version of freeNAS to install? |
| touson | I am still a relative neebie so could use all the guidance I can get |
| nostrora | Hello, what do you think about https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/atom/A2SDi-H-TF.cfm ? |
| nostrora | Should i take this or mostly an X11 ? |
| jrg | when did intel make that cpu?! |
| jrg | that looks like an avoton that takes ddr4 |
| Christoph_vW | isn't an AMD Epyc a better choice now? no meltdown issue, more pcie lanes, cheaper |
| Christoph_vW | at least cheaper than a Xeon |
| m0nkey_ | That A2SDi looks great, but it was tested a month or two ago and revealed that FreeNAS does not work with it. Reported that it often hung and the 10GbE didn't function. |
| m0nkey_ | That _might_ have changed since, but it didn't look good at the time. |
| jrg | m0nkey_: damn that sucks. that’s a nice looking board. |
| jrg | that’s weird. |
| jrg | Christoph_vW: I didn’t know AMD was still on the map. |
| jrg | https://www.supermicro.com/products/nfo/AMD_SP3.cfm?pg=MOBO |
| jrg | neat |
| Christoph_vW | still? you mean again... |
| Christoph_vW | I wonder why they offer only one EPYC board with 4TB memory support - all others are limited to 1TB or 2TB |
| Cpuroast | Christoph_vW: number of slots on the board |
| Cpuroast | ? |
| Christoph_vW | 8 to 32 - depends on the board |
| Christoph_vW | guess my next order will be a Dell PowerEdge with an EPYC cpu - the supermicro server I have has too many "serviceability issues" |
| Christoph_vW | like really little screws in bad positions to be able to open the chassis |
| Christoph_vW | and supermicro limits the single cpu EPYC systems to 8 DIMM slots, Dell offers 16 in UP config |
| {HD} | This is the first time I got this email "No /var/log/mount.today" & "No /var/log/dmesg.today" is that a good or a bad thing? |
| dkas | hi. Is there anyone already using the freenas11 beehyve vms in a production level setting? Are there some known caveats? |
| sunrunner20 | AFAIK it’s stable if you can get it working dkas |
| dkas | and beehyve is here to stay, correct? slightly worried since jails went the way of the dodo with freenas 11 which I did not expect |
| sunrunner20 | They’re not gone diss |
| dkas | In principle, this would make a neat little appliance for SMB. Set up a small FreeNAS11 box, throw some basic VMs on it (Mailstorage, DBs, maybe a samba dc) and replicate all of it back to base |
| dkas | But I never worked with beehyve, so I am reluctant. we usually only use freenas as pure nas and throw in an extra esxi. |
| dkas | but that is overkill for some of the 3-5 man shops we sometimes get as customers |
| cbreak | dkas: why the hell would you use VMs for DB, mail storage and so on? or samba? |
| cbreak | can't you do that in a normal jail? |
| dkas | cbreak: samba, dbs - sure. mail storage is mostly in a "Mailstore" server, aka win |
| dkas | cbreak: and aren't jails deprecated in freenas11? |
| cbreak | no. |
| cbreak | jails are a freebsd base feature |
| tvsutton | FreeNAS just removed some of the management UI for them, but you can still run and manage them yourself |
| cbreak | dkas: the linux people ended up reinventing them partially with their lxc / docker stuff :) |
| cbreak | dkas: seems to be quite popular nowadays |
| dkas | why would freenas remove the UI to run jails if they think of it as a feature? |
| Cpuroast | they'll re-add it in time |
| cbreak | dkas: they rewrote the UI and didn't get to "J" in their todo yet? |
| dkas | :) |
| tvsutton | I'm sure they've been wanting to kill the old jails plugin system for a while too |
| sunrunner20 | cbreak is humerus but right- they haven’t gotten to porting it to the new ui yet |
| mrelcee | i think I'm going to pull the plug on my freebsd server today and slip in the freenas boot flash.. i've migrated all of my important stuff from my main system to a bhyve vm. In theory i should be able to fire freenas, set up the vm, and my nfs shares and be mostly in business in 20 minutes |
| mrelcee | and.... the wife just plopped down to watch plex. maybe later. :) |
| zaggynl | what made you pick freenas over freebsd? |
| ayecee | convenient web interface so i don't have to familiarize myself with cryptic commands to accomplish tasks |
| ayecee | also so i can eventually hand it off to someone else without training them on cryptic commands |
| mrelcee | the webui is appealing, supports a lot of stuff that is a pain to do on your own in freebsd.. plus I can still have bsd servers in bhyve or jails so best of all worlds |
| mrelcee | i've been running this server for just under two years and it's great.. I just have had an itch to scratch wanting to check out freenas... |
| mrelcee | unfortunately piles of cash to throw at standing up a new box to try it out isn't in the cards. |
| {HD} | If I have a Mac user and a Windows user that have identical usernames do I tic the box in freeness that says “Windows user“ or not? |
| ayecee | do you intend to manage permissions using windows ACLs? if so, yes. if not, no. |
| {HD} | Hum, I guess I do plan on using acls with my smb shares... |
| Guest62096 | Hello |
| Guest62096 | Guys |
| Guest62096 | I have added SMART tests to my system, how i can see test results ? |
| FRIGN | Guest62096: smartctl -a /dev/adax |
| Guest62096 | FRIGN, /dev/a |
| Guest62096 | acpi% apm% apmctl% atkbd0% audit% |
| FRIGN | just try each, it won't do harm. If your drives are not connected via ADA, the /dev/ names will be different. |
| mrelcee | where on a zpool does freenas like to store bhyve vm zvols? |
| peerce | zvols don't show up in the file system as files |
| mrelcee | how does bhyve do it? I'm switching over a freebsd server with vms i want to bring over. |
| mrelcee | s/bhyve/freesas |
| mrelcee | nas |
| mrelcee | if need be I've dd'd the images out of the zvol device for safety.. just trying to cover my bases |
| peerce | i've never used bhyve, and frankly, I would be doing the /opposite/ of what you're doing if you're building a sytem to be a hypervisor |
| mrelcee | thanks for your time |
| peerce | create a small test VM, see where it puts stuff |
| Guest62096 | FRIGN, maybe /dev/zvol/VOLZ3/ |
| Guest62096 | ? |
| FRIGN | Guest62096: No, you want the hardware :) A zvol is something that "lives" on top of it, on a higher level than S.M.A.R.T. |
| peerce | well, no trailing / |
| Guest62096 | FRIGN, i know. But i think it standard Linux command smartctrl. So its will show current SMART status. But i have scheduled SMART test and dont want chek every time from CLI. If someting happened with my disks how i can see problems witout going to CLI ? |
| peerce | smartd will notify you if it thinks ther's a problem |
| Guest62096 | peerce, where i will see notifications ? |
| peerce | at the emaila ddress you setup on the smartd settings page |
| peerce | plus a red alert on the dashboard |
| Guest62096 | oh , thank you ! |
| Guest62096 | :) |
| Guest62096 | Thank you peerce , FRIGN |
| FRIGN | Guest62096: you're welcome! :) Yeah, don't forget to set up your mail, but e.g. for me, it doesn't send mail when it runs a test successfully. So don't worry. |
| Guest62096 | :) I will set up mail right now, thank you again :) |
| mrelcee | spelunking the freenas docs it looks like it just wants a zvol that you can select. i'm probably okay.. |
| {HD} | Wow there is a whole secret freenas ui I never knew about!!! |
| FRIGN | {HD}: which one? |
| {HD} | FRIGN: there is more than one!? Freenas/ui is the one I just came across |
| peerce | thats the beta for the 'new' UI that will be the default in a future release |
| peerce | it may not be feature complete yet |
| acos | Soon TM |
| brandonx | anyone know how i can update my sab jail ? i dont mind rebuilding a new jail and importing settings but the plugins page doesnt list the new version |
| peerce | SAB jail? |
| peerce | whats SAB ? |
| brandonx | sabnzbd |
| peerce | no idea what that is. |
| mrelcee | can't you install the pkg? |
| brandonx | i mean, i could make a fresh jail and manually install it but that seems to be counterintuitive to just having an update function for plugins |
| peerce | and yeah, create a plain jail, install/configure your app(s) with pkg install |
| peerce | brandonx; if the plugin hasn't been updated that means the plugin authors have dropped support for it |
| brandonx | ah ok |
| brandonx | thanks :-) |
| catzilla | I have been referred to this group as an appropriate place to get an answer for the question originally posted here: http://disq.us/p/1pfghnf |
| catzilla | I'm using FreeNAS 11.1. I have 2 NICs and several jails. I have configured one of the jails to use the 2nd NIC via placing the NIC iface name into the jail iface file. After this I am left with: |
| catzilla | bridge0 includes the specific NIC referenced in the jail's "iface" file and that jail's epair -> great. bridge1 includes the default NIC and all the other jails' epairs -> great. bridge0 does not have an IPV4 address assigned to it -> fine but bridge1 has a DHCP assigned IPV4 address -> this is also fine, but I don't understand why? |
| catzilla | Equally if I go to "Network Summary" in the FreeNAS web UI, I see the two NICs and the bridge1 listed (but not bridge0). Do you have any idea what, why or where bridge1 is assigned an IP address? |
| SweetAndLow | catzilla: how do you create bridge1? |
| brandonx6 | i'm having a hell of a time trying to get sabnzbd to even work in a fresh jail, i've tried ports and packages and each time i try to start the service sabnzbd it gives an error about sqlite3 which is installed, anyone else had this issue ? |
| catzilla | I didn't explicitly create either of the bridges. I think one at least must be created by freenas the first time you create a jail? Also it seems that the numbering bridge0 for the specific NIC and bridge1 for the others (after I reboot) seems to indicate freenas works out that 2 bridges are needed and creates them. |
| SweetAndLow | catzilla: basically nobody messes with nics like this |
| SweetAndLow | most people just use one nic for everything |
| SweetAndLow | i'm sure you can do it but might be lots of trial and error |
| FRIGN | Hey guys! Maybe you can help me out. For some reason, my system just won't start any S.M.A.R.T. tests or scrubs, even though I've scheduled them. |
| FRIGN | I already checked smartd and it correctly lists the upcoming "occasions". However, once the time comes, nothing happens. |
| FRIGN | The S.M.A.R.T.-service is running of course. |
| FRIGN | And it also does the boot-disk scrubs correctly too |
| m0nkey_ | Falcon Heavy launch in 10mins.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbSwFU6tY1c |
| FRIGN | Is there a known bug with the "on each day" or "on selected days" settings? Should I tweak things there? |
| wedgie | so excited |
| SweetAndLow | FRIGN: smart works for most people |
| SweetAndLow | what version of freenas are you running? make sure you don't have your usb boot devices selected |
| FRIGN | SweetAndLow: Ok, I investigated a bit more. Actually I don't have a USB boot device, but a normal NVMe. What I noticed is the following: It won't even set the alarm state for high hdd temps even if the conditions are met (and it should send me a mail then). It used to work before, so what I'm going to do now is one after the other remove the entries in the S.M.A.R.T. tasks and see what this yields. |
| SweetAndLow | FRIGN: uncheck your nvme drive |
| SweetAndLow | it does't support smart most likely |
| FRIGN | SweetAndLow: it does actually, and I can run short and long checks on it without issues |
| FRIGN | but yeah, I thought so as well at first, that it might be the NVMe |
| FRIGN | (no rhyme intended) |
| FRIGN | ok, it was not the UPS service (I shut that down as a test) |
| SweetAndLow | FRIGN: why would ups and smart have anything to do with each other |
| SweetAndLow | i think you are way off the mark here |
| SweetAndLow | turn off smart for your nvme drive |
| peerce | to disable smart on drives, you need to go into storage -> view disks, select a drive, edit, THEN turn off smart for that drive. |
| FRIGN | SweetAndLow: There is an open bug where connected USB drives affect smartd. And now, when I restarted the UPS services, it suddenly started reporting the hdd-temps again (I set it to a crazy low-limit of 20°C, which it didn't report before). |
| FRIGN | I have no idea why that is |
| SweetAndLow | link to bug? |
| FRIGN | If it was because of my nvme-drive not supporting S.M.A.R.T., smartd would give me a warning in the system log. |
| FRIGN | SweetAndLow: yeah sec |
| FRIGN | SweetAndLow: https://redmine.ixsystems.com/issues/27938 |
| FRIGN | but as given in the report, smartd gives a warning when it can't register the device. |
| FRIGN | ok, what I did now was schedule a long self-test on one of my HDDs for 22:52 (in 20 mins). Let's see how it turns out. If that doesn't help, I'll disable S.M.A.R.T. for my boot drive, as you suggested. :) |
| SweetAndLow | FRIGN: ok so that bug is exactly what i have been telling you |
| SweetAndLow | good luck figuring this out I'm dont helping you |
| FRIGN | ok, that's fine. Thanks for your help up to this point! :) |
| segy | so I have a live 11.1-u1 system that's effectively stopped responding to nfs |
| segy | all machines talking to it are reporting timeouts |
| segy | nothing is jumping out at me in logs |
| segy | what should I be looking for/interrogating |
| segy | this is the 2nd time it's happened in the last few days |
| FRIGN | segy: in the WebUI, go to System->Advanced, enable "Show console messages in the footer", save and then click on the green text in the footer to open the log |
| FRIGN | It's the first thing I'd do: Check error output of the services. |
| FRIGN | Maybe this gives some indication. |
| segy | is there a way to do the same via ssh |
| segy | I've been looking at /var/log/messages and friends |
| segy | no indication of why this is happening |
| FRIGN | segy: hmm, what happens if you restart the nfs-service? |
| FRIGN | I know, it sounds dumb and you probably tried that |
| segy | FRIGN: so I did that |
| segy | FRIGN: an nfsd process appears to have been hung |
| segy | running service nfsd restart resulted in the restart command hanging |
| segy | I got a lot of procstat info from the process |
| segy | before I had to reboot the machine |
| segy | on the shutdown cycle the scripts reported that some processes had failed to stop right before it synced the disks |
| FRIGN | segy: this is not unusual. when it loses the PID given in the PID file and it tries to kill the corresponding process, with it being not present any more, it reports a failure on shutdown. |
| FRIGN | however, everything beyond that is also beyond my knowledge. |
| segy | yeah, so attempting to kill the nfsd pid it was waiting on didn't do anything |
| segy | no logs were reported |
| segy | anything I should do to gather information the next time this happens |
| segy | I'm running most of my stuff off of nfs including vmware hosts. normally w/o incident |
| segy | system load was ~1 |
| segy | procstat -k output seems to indicate all the nfsd kernel threads were in sleep_wait |
| segy | mostly refs to zfs_fhtovp |
| segy | hrm... https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2014-December/020608.html |
| segy | looks like I'm in lockmgr |
| jrg | There are somethings you can’t kill your way out of. |
| jrg | lol |
| segy | indeed |
| jrg | love altered carbon |
| Cpuroast | need to watch that |
| segy | I'm almost done w/ it myself |
| jrg | Cpuroast: it’s good. it’s sort of like..... |
| jrg | blade runner meets uhm...... surrogates |
| jrg | actually more like ghost in the shell |
| jrg | it’s blade runner + gits heh |
| jrg | the budget for altered carbon has to be insane |
| jrg | this is a theatre quality grade show |
| Cpuroast | yup. I'll get around to watching it |
| FRIGN | SweetAndLow: ok, disabling S.M.A.R.T. did not solve the problem :( |
| pmow | I'm getting fast reads of 950MiB/s from SSD, but fairly slow reads of 127MB/s. Reads is even hitting the ARC. Any ideas what I can check? |
| Cpuroast | pmow: arc needs time to warm up |
| pmow | Cpuroast: Is there a term for this I can research on? |
| Criggie | "patience" ? |
| sunrunner20 | rotfl |
| pmow | thanks |
| pmow | Seeing as I haven't heard of this "arc warm-up time", I wanted to look into it. So what kind of patience should I have for ARC? It's ram |
| sunrunner20 | the exact rate at which the ARC fills is determined by tunables |
| SweetAndLow | pmow: how are you testing these read speeds? local or over a 10gig network? |
| pmow | local |